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Old Dec 20, 2006, 01:44 PM // 13:44   #21
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Farmed it, traded for it, got a little help from guildies (who I paid back for it) every bit of my FoW.

I like it, I bought it for looks for my female necro and although I wish it was inscribable, it still serves me well.
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Old Dec 20, 2006, 02:06 PM // 14:06   #22
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FoW and Tyrian 15K should be made inscribable, like it's mentioned in the suggestions forum. I know alot of people like 15K platemail, but have to get an uglier helm in order to get good stats.
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Old Dec 20, 2006, 02:24 PM // 14:24   #23
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Yes...yes i do feel cheated...after so much hard work the FoW looks like some ugly sh*t on me..i want my ectos back!
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Old Dec 20, 2006, 03:22 PM // 15:22   #24
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I bought my FoW for the mods I saw listed. If I want other mods on my armor, it's cheaper to just put on another set, not constantly swap inscriptions.

Don't feel cheated at all.
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Old Dec 20, 2006, 05:27 PM // 17:27   #25
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No I dont, I have my druids set for ranger, realy dont see any use in other armor sets.
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Old Dec 20, 2006, 05:35 PM // 17:35   #26
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It makes no sense that three different armor systems and crafter types exist.

Prophecies style
Factions style
Nightfall style

--> Insignia armor can be upgraded, old armors can't.


It is not only about FoW armor, I think it is about time that they unify their armor system. Even if it means work, they should add insignia and inscription drops to Prophecies and Factions.

Staves and other gold drops in Prophecies and Factions are merchant fodder, except there is a good upgrade on them.


This really prevents me from going back to Factions and Prophecies at times. It also really angers me that there are STILL no +1 weapon helmets for Plate 15K and Dragon 15K armor.


They should at least allow people who own Nightfall to upgrade their old armors to the new Insignia standard.


I still hope the armor/insignia/inscription system will be unified for all three chapters short before the release of Chapter IV. At the moment it might be seen as some kind of incentive to buy Nightfall.
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Old Dec 20, 2006, 05:52 PM // 17:52   #27
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i dont feel cheatet because i have my +enegry armour from fow and its enough i don't need any inscriptions there
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Old Dec 20, 2006, 06:18 PM // 18:18   #28
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I don't feel cheated. But then, I bought the +energy set. I saved up ecto and shard drops for over a year, and farmed amber for gold to buy my Mesmer's FoW set, it's beautiful and I'm proud of it.

I'm somewhat annoyed that insignias weren't incorporated though, for the simple fact that I want a bloodstained version of my 15K bonelace boots. I hate having to wear ascalon boots when I want to MM, ruins my look.
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Old Dec 20, 2006, 07:52 PM // 19:52   #29
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i feel cheated by the new dye system on the monk fow not the inscriptions. i've always wanted that blue on the monk and the update happened without any announcement. i've tried every dye mix i could think of and it's not even close to that beautiful bright blue.
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Old Dec 20, 2006, 08:51 PM // 20:51   #30
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I never bought FoW armor, never liked the looks. But considering that FoW/UW are core zones, anyone should be able to trade in their old fow for a new set.
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Old Dec 20, 2006, 08:54 PM // 20:54   #31
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I have old FoW for my warrior. So old, it's got Knight's boots. (well, Ascalon boots, but ya know what I mean)

Do I feel cheated now that the crafter offers something entirely different than it did when I bought mine? No. Duh. I have precisely what the crafter offered when I gave him my money - precisely what I paid for.

Well, one slight difference, I suppose... my boots reduce -3 damage now instead of -2. Heh.
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Old Dec 20, 2006, 09:02 PM // 21:02   #32
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No, i got my monks FoW over a year ago, and i'm quite grateful for that and can care less about insignias, i have the Ascetics version anyways, that's all I need. Plus, old FoW dyes so much better then the new FoW, just look at mesmers FoW, the old version dyes actual White, whereas the new version dyes a more.. greyish white.. i suppose (looks bad.), and Imo, it gives no disadvantage stats-wise. it only means that u cant change the stats on the armor. Anet even added +1 energy to old headgear just to counter the +1 that radiant insignias can give u on new headgear i guess.
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Old Dec 20, 2006, 09:51 PM // 21:51   #33
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Question: say you never bought nightfall, how would you know your at a disadvantage or not? I dont think they (anet) needs to go back into tyria and redo all the armor reqs and add inscriptions, same should be for factions then. its just a new "buy nightfall for this reason". nightfall/factions still dont have the player base for UW/FoW as tyria does, everyone still goes to ToA for their fow/uw runs.
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Old Dec 20, 2006, 11:19 PM // 23:19   #34
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When I got my necro her FoW, I bought all Tormentor's. It's still very much on par with current necromancer armours.
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Old Dec 20, 2006, 11:45 PM // 23:45   #35
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Question: say you never bought nightfall, how would you know your at a disadvantage or not? I dont think they (anet) needs to go back into tyria and redo all the armor reqs and add inscriptions, same should be for factions then. its just a new "buy nightfall for this reason". nightfall/factions still dont have the player base for UW/FoW as tyria does, everyone still goes to ToA for their fow/uw runs.
An NPC in Kamadan would solve that problem. Let people take their old sets to him, wipe them and make them like Nightfall armor.


Yes, I know it sounds a lot easier than it probably is, but that's an idea I've seen floating around.
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Old Dec 20, 2006, 11:50 PM // 23:50   #36
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My 'ascalon' fissure boots are pretty trash now, but I honestly don't care anymore. It's only 1 energy difference.

Sure, I was pissed when they nerfed the global, but meh. I still stand by my hopes that we can inscribe previous armors for a price someday... 15k ascalon ftw.
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Old Dec 20, 2006, 11:51 PM // 23:51   #37
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yeh i feel cheated
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Old Dec 20, 2006, 11:58 PM // 23:58   #38
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I feel sorta cheated on some of my 15K armors. I mean on my warrior I have glads and thats what I wanted I bought it for running so its ok. On my el though I have 15K Pyro. I def would like to make it inscribable. So far I can only hit 97 engy without engy boosting skills. I wanna break 100 without the -2 engy degen I bought my sin Vabbi armor so that was fine. My monk has 15K ascetics but Judge's Pants. If they made the 15K judges inscribable I'd love Anet forevaaaa!
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Old Dec 21, 2006, 04:10 AM // 04:10   #39
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if you can afford fow you can afford anouther set (not necesarly fow) to have the new stats on
yeah, so what? I dont want a different set of armor: I want my FoW armor to be inscribable!

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Old obsidian armor should be updated to work with insignias.
For Dwayna's sake, give this man an Ecto!

/signed to updating old FoW armor. (I've started a thread on this over at GWO to try and get a petition going, but...meh. GWO )
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Old Dec 21, 2006, 07:26 AM // 07:26   #40
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I bought my FoW for the mods I saw listed. If I want other mods on my armor, it's cheaper to just put on another set, not constantly swap inscriptions.

Don't feel cheated at all.
That's not necessarily true in most cases and it's this very reason why I am frustrated that Anet isn't giving me an option to make my Fow's inscribable. Keep in mind months from now insignias are going to plummet to nothingness in price. Having armor that can accept insignias is a huge advantage when you use a particular character in multiple places. Sure, in some cases it won't make much difference but if you are in the more difficult areas switching the insignia for the job can increase your survival rate greatly.

I can understand why Anet may not want people from Factions or Prophecies to have the ability to insigniate their armor if they don't have Nightfall. The ability to insigniate makes purchasing Nightfall an added incentive. But let's be reasonable. This is the real question here:

Why NOT make it so players who own nightfall AND wear armor from another campeign the ability to access an NPC that will allow you to upgrade your armor to allow insignias?

Where's the problem in that? I think anywhere there is an Armorer in nightfall the player should have this oppurtunity; be it Kurzick, FoW or even pre searing! Come now Anet, I'm certain this solution wouldn't be too difficult for the team to implement.
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